>> author jerry antfill calls this latest book an important one.
>> sistina: jerry, this book is a little different for you.
It takes on some tough topics.
>> sistina: tell us a little bit about what prompted you to write this book?
>> i will.
Series started when we were 9 and 10 years old.
The last three books that you talked about took -- all take place this one included when we were 13, 12 and 13, all in one year, 1953.
So what prompted this was a couple things.
One, i do a lot of research for backdrop, okay?
Number 2, when i was 12 years old, i actually went to little rock, arkansas, because my sister who is my aunt in the book, you can't introduce a new sister in the fourth book, you know?
So she was having a baby.
So we went down an spent some time with her.
We were shocked when we went to the zoo one day and we had a great time at the zoo and we went the next day and it said, there was a sandwich board out at the zoo, and it said colored only at the zoo.
We did not relate, did not know what that meant.
The lady at the movie said, no honey that is for colored only.
It was a culture shock it really was.
>> jim: why include this in the book?
>> it was an important topic because it was inspired by obama.
When i think president of the united states, i think of george washington and roosevelt and obama actually stood there and said as president that he remembered when he was in the senate, crossing the street and hearing car doors lock.
And that's pretty sad state for the u.s., you know?
And so i use the line, "we never said we are sorry for 200 years of slavery."
And that is, it is just a metaphor for fact that it has to be taught from this age up.
And we don't do a good job of it, i don't think.
>> sistina: and i think jerry speak of not doing a good job of it, we all think maybe that we've come so far.
>> we take it for granted and we haven't.
It still has to be instilled.
I mean, think about it.
It was pretty pervasive in the 50s.
While this was happening in little rock, arkansas, jim brown, remember him, syracuse university, syracuse university wowouldn't give him a scholarsh, that year.
So it was pervasive.
The whole country looked with a blind eye on it all.
>> jim: briefly, when the book comes out in the fall because it hasn't gone to press yet, you are going to be doing something special in little rock right?
>> hemingway is staying at this hotel because he has heard that eisenhower has sent in troops to protect the kids.
What we're doing at the very hotel, which is an historic hotel there, we're going to have a press party premiering the book and we're donating a book to every high school student in the little rock public school >> sistina: wow!
>> so it will be a big deal.
>> jim: the book is coming out october 1st.
There's the website you can go, jerome mark ansill.
>> sistina: it will be available at barnes and noble and amazon.com.
>> jim: if you use the words mary crane on the website you can