A different topic.
So tell me a little bit about that.
>> the three reports so far, generally look at the careers in which women find themselves in the state of vermont, their economic standing and status in the state.
And how their wages and their job opportunities compared to men in similar sectors in traditional and nontraditional fields.
The one most recently released was whether women entrepreneurs and said vermont and if able to perform well in businesses.
We will ddhave one fourth one coming out next year related to women in leadership positions.
>> you mentioned entrepreneurial.
Women owned 23,417 businesses in vermont and it's on large number to me.
To you three is it large?
>> it is a large number and many are single owned businesses in single proprietors.
Of that report is that there is tremendous opportunity and potential from these women and businesses.
But currently, they basically make $0.19 to the dollar then men make in similar single owned businesses or in male owned businesses.
>> revenue is not the same.
>> how can we change that and make that different?
>> i think so many places we can start.
A lot of great work that is being done and a lot of run understanding the opportunities that do not always come to women.
And how we can make sure that those opportunities are spread more evenly and how we can talk more in terms of equality.
And how we can foster a culture in which young women can see themselves as leaders and members -- strong members of community as role models not only to other young women but the boys into men.
>> i cannot help but think about the wage gap playable here and it must be a big part of the report as well.
>> i was going to touch on what he said, i think opportunities or suspended changes with more data and with more evaluation, we can see trends in how women excess money and how they borrow money.
The types of careers they build up, if there are constraints around childcare or other care the family needs.
That the impact her ability to have different jobs in the workforce.
>> and the wage gap was what drove the whole initiative to begin with.
Because as it stands now, with nothing being done the wage gap in vermont will close between men and women's wages in 32 years.
And we'll said why are we waiting 32 years.
We can do this faster and we know how we can do it in vermont.
It is a small state.
There are many interested and passionate people that want to see both men and women want to see women's economic security and growth improve.
The wage gap was a driving force behind that.
>> so where do you see this going from here?
Where to be hoped to be when it comes three or five years from now?
[laughter] the sky is the limit.
>> we would like to put ourselves out of business, essentially.
It seems to m always a very simple thing, if women were making the same amount as men destroy would be over.
But that is not happening unless we push it and social agenda left, there are people and organizations trying to push this forward it will not happen on its own.
>> colin, you are outnumbered but men play a big role when coming to change the story and helping women grow in business.
In a lot of different areas.
Events coming up shortly on november 30 called male champion change.
>> when i first found out about gender inequality and the pay gap, i was stoned because i not experienced personally but i was immediately thinking how can i get involved and how can i help move this towards equality.
The operating believe we have is most men feel this way as well.
That the status quo got there over a long time does not mean that is what we want to see happen.
So we are bringing together men from across the community to frank and honest conversation around what are our opportunities and what is our platform that we do not even see, where we can be speaking up for gender equality.
When we see someone say something that feels demeaning or objectifying or degrading to say like, whoa, i am not okay with that.
>> we could probably go on for days talking about this topic, but i really appreciate the three of you joing us today.
>> thank you.
>> and we will be right back