>>> hello and thank you for joining us.
In the last 20 years, we have learned a lot about the internet and how predators can access your home and your family.
Living in social media and cyberspace today is as common as watching tv of yesteryear, but with inherently greater dangers.
As a parent, how do you protect your kids from the world wide web?
Lisa good is cybersecurity expert and author of are your kids naked online?
How to protect your tech savvy kids from online self-destruction.
Thank you for being here.
>> guest: it's great to be here.
>> host: what we began?
What you consider a healthy relationship with the internet?
>> guest: it really depends for your child.
Older kids spend more time.
Honestly, unless you are really using it for your job or career, it doesn't really need to be active when you're young.
>> host: using it as a tool rather than a place to live.
>> guest: yes.you shouldn't live on social media.
You should live in real life with real people.
>> host: as mother of four teens, what were you noticing when they were coming up getting more familiar with the internet?
>> guest: it's easy to sound like a bully.
It's easy to say something really funny, but people don't read the tone.
It's a time suck for our kids.
It really sucks you in and takes your life.
>> host: it wastes time.
>> guest: it does.
>> host: when you're teens were getting old enough to realize their friends were on the internet, what were they come in to you with?
When did you first put a device in front of your children first of all?
>> guest: 16.
>> host: why did you choose that age?>> guest: because being in the i.t.
Industry, i knew the good and the bad.
I knew i didn't want my kids to live there.
I wanted them to have a childhood and save that for when they really needed it.
To be honest, that's what people like mark zuckerberg, bill gates, all of these tech people that have given us all of their tech.
If you look at their children, their children aren't on facebook.
They aren't on snapchat.
They aren't on instagram.
They are sending their kids to school where there's no technology until they are in high school.
>> host: isn't that something?
The very people who have created the internet do not allow their children on the internet.
What does that tell you?
They know what the dangers are and they don't want their children to be subjected to it.
You shouldn't expect your children or think your children should be subjected to it.
As someone in the cybersecurity arena, what are some things you have seen that you just come from that knowledgeable viewpoint that other parents should now?
>> guest: the first thing i would say is a lot of parents say, i've raised my kids right, it won't happen to them.
To them i say, i'm a cybersecurity expert and i have a 15-year-old nephew who was a bright kid, smart, never got into trouble.
He was at a party with some friends and i thought it would be a great idea to buy the marijuana from the dark web with his iphone.
My nephew and his friends were busted by the police and spent 30 days in rehab, expelled from school.
Kick that boy scouts.
The eagle scout he was almost at gone.
And the goal to be a pilot in the air force was gone as well all before he was old enough to drive.
In reality, if that could happen to a family like mine where we are security conscious and i'm an expert, can happen to anyone.
>> host: he wasn't even old enough to drive in his whole future just disintegrated.
>> guest: just gone.
He couldn't get into college.
It was a nightmare for my sister.
>> host: i'm sure.
What has he done since then?
>> guest: right now he's working at a factory and he is trying to get the felony removed so he can go to college.
They won't accept him.
>> host: all of that time wasted.
Where are parents going wrong?
>> guest: well, i would say you need to really be active as a parent.
It's difficult to know.
Your kids are so much smarter than you.
You just need to be involved and pay attention.
>> host: what you say to parents to pop a device in front of their baby?
>> guest: i say please think about what you're doing.
That is really not a smart move.
>> host: you see children not even one-year-old and you put a magazine in front of them and they are trying to swipe the picture across.
Obviously, that's way too young.
That must do something developmentally to their brains that they are not developing properly.
>> guest: it does.
Over 577 medical studies.
These are not.>> doctors.
These are the american pediatrics, neurology, that state as kids spend time on devices, not just gaming, but in front of a device, in front of computer at school, it actually rewires their brain.
They lose their creativity.
They lose their communication skills and it changes how their analytical skills work.
I believe in the next 10 to 15 years, kind of like how cigarette started where in the 50s and 60s it was good for you, and then it was this is dangerous.
I think now there's going to be a warning that will come with games and